ALL CHEMTRAIL WEBSITES ARE FAKE

[Jeff Reynolds]

Ah, the whole thing was a setup from the start. Who is anyone kidding? The reason why any of us post on these forums is because we have already done a lot of research into this situation. The preponderance of evidence was found through our own eyes. We looked up and it looked strange, like nothing we had ever seen before.

So we at some point go to the internet. We check out Rense and PrisonPlanet. We eventually end up at the big name forums- Chemtrail Central and Carnicom's. We get a grasp of all the theories. We then go to search engines and end up all over the place. At some point we realize that chemtrail plugged in to ask jeeves keeps taking us to the same places with the same ideas. By chance you end up at AboveTopSecret or GodlikeProductions and you can't believe the nonsense being put out by both "believers" and "debunkers".

Then you go deep into the Chemtrail Central, Carnicom, and DBS archives. You pick up some good nuggets along the way, but you are increasingly dismayed by the level of contributions being made at CTC. Instead of interacting with likeminded truth seekers, you find yourself spending way too much time debunking the outrageous nutjobs who are supposed to be on your side.

So right when you are about to give up you are invited by SwampGas to post at his Gastronamus Cafe. You are happy because you are like, phew, at least there is one person left you can trust isn't either disinfo or of the useful idiot persuasion. You start to make tremendous headway. You figure out this Halva/ Chem11/ Deborah triangle. You bring attention to sources and issues pertaining to chemtrails that have nothing to do with any of the tinfoil. Now for debunkers at this site, I am not looking to debate our profound differences. We have to agree to disagree. The reason I am writing this is because I have been banned by the Gastronamus Cafe. Such a banning has opened up my eyes to the months of denial I have been in that all chemtrail websites are not fake. They are.

Swampgas can't go a day without saying zionazi. In a way he has the same grotesque, divisive, tinfoil approach of declaring loud and often that Israel is behind everything, that Israel controls the US.. Well, I basically ignored that crap because for one, I think the Israeli government sucks, and secondly, I was trying to get to the bottom of the chemtrails.

A post was left today at Carnicoms:

"Chemtemplation, sorry you were refused entry into Gastronamus. We were canning everybody because of Jason.....I mean Ed Snell. You can sign up again if you want, but we discourage personel attacks or fighting. Not that you would, but if you like a calm place, you and anybody else are welcome."

Edited by: swampgasssss at: 1/29/07 4:32 pm

This is what happened with me at Gastronamus. I had hit it off well with SwampGas, withstanding his tinfoil leanings as in Rense and WhatReallyHappened, we had a very similar outlook on chemtrails. But then a few things happened and the trust completely fell apart.

I am no fan of Ed Snell, but there is a lot of truth in what he wrote above over at Caricom's. On the surface, it appears that SwampGas and Thetaloops are into a groovy, calm atmosphere. That is true, on the surface that is. Deep down it is a rabbit hole of epic proportions. I am not saying there isn't good stuff there. Check out my 800 posts, and those from some of the others, and there is a lot to get one thinking about chemtrails in a deep way. It is a rabbit hole in that this type of sincere introspection can only go so far. There is the illusion of free speech and noble moderating that just isn't true. Because I have better things to do, I will simply outline the rest of this post.

*** A couple months ago Increase1776 becomes a moderator at CTC. This is the same CTC that Swampgas has declared has been violated and is not a good place to be. Increase even posted a thread on Starman, their new moderator, implying that he is some type of shill. Everyone just piled on to CTC and Starman. There are actually more threads on CTC than any on Lord Reynolds. Myself and Lou would talk about him as in the form of the generic debunker, let's face it, the Lordship has the biggest name after Minnis for debunking chemtrails. The point is, CTC was the target of a lot of our wrath towards the forums, for allowing all the crazy theories to be yabbered about. (hey debunkers-if you respond to this post I'd appreciate it if you could try to be even the least bit objective and keep this one on topic. I am not lookming for this one to be the typical chemtrail/contrail debate.)

So anyway, this person Pak was trolling Sore Throat, one of those copy and paste masters who say so little while posting so much. (Let's not debate global warming either thank you- you see Pak was trolling him for posting global warming articles. I told her to back off. Then Increase1776 came in and called me a debunker trying to drive off Pak. I am no debunker. I've always made it clear when I have different names at different sights. Eve4n here, I went out of my way to make it obvious. It was all in good fun in a strange kind of way.

But the point is Increase called me a debunker at CTC and said I was trying to run off the global warming debunker/Haarp-mind control tin foilist from there. Au contraire. While I have a big yapper from the other side of this debate from his Lordship, I tell it like it is. I ask direct questions and answer questions directly. I do care how my words come across. It was basically illogical for that tin foilist to call me a debunker while supporting a debunker.

Then like a month later I am asking both Swampgas and Increase about this section called CTC Changes, which Swamp had turned me on to months and months ago with tons of posting on what happened to CTC, the when and why all the moderators were quitting. NEITHER OF THEM WOULD FRIGGIN ANSWER ME. I ASKED TWICE. Neither one of them seemed to have a clue about it. The irony is that Swamp was the one who told me to read the CTC Changes threads, then all of a sudden he goes mute. I would soon find out that he has that way about him.

Not only am I banned from posting at Gastro, I am also not allowed to read there either.

*** So I have this pretty cool thread going on chemtrail subliminals. By the way they are all over that tv screen these days. Then TinFoil1776 comes barging in, gives me the Johnny Cash FU, totally smears me in public, nothing I ever did at Gastro. Over at Megasprayer in the Fight Club is another story. But if the truth means someone gets smeared so be it. So anyway, et in Arcadia Ego starts ripping into me for4 drawing first blood, Swampgas makes no mention of TinFoil's blatant transgressing of moderator fairness. So I upped and quit. I actually quit one or two times more, eh, but hey, it happens, guess why people say never say never, but anyway...

I go on in private at Gastro to expose Arcadia as a debunker in chemmie clothes. In public I would go on to expose the copy and paste debunkers over at Megasprayer, then after I quit because Chem11 was having a strange meltdown, I went on to write Chem11 DECLARES THAT ALL AIRCRAFT ARE INVOLVED or something like that, keep in mind I can't even read Gastro any more. What is up with all these fake chemmies who are really debunkers? A lot of the times they sound no different than Ed Snell. The Lordship? Ha, not involved in this one. He doesn't think the skies are any different. He thinks chemtrails are a mass psychosis brought on by Val Valerian. But again, your Lordship, that's neither here nor there.

The final straw though might be something the Lord of the Contrails can relate to. In private someone made a comment about me and my mom who recently passed away. This is the same person who thinks it makes his "cause" look good by linking to his opponent's mom's obituary. Sometimes one can say, wait a second, forget chemtrails for a sec, but that was a slime bag thing to say and do. So I let him have it in private. Swamp erased the post. Then I made my final post, final because I was banned. I wrote that Swampgas, while I disagreed with him on some things that I still felt he was probably for real. I said that because he had said the same thing earlier about me. He can say I was a disruptor. I don't care. Neither he or Thetaloops or actually no one posted condolescences or any type of sympathies. Sure it was in the private thread, but Swamp and Theta should have said something about the slimeball's comments. THAT WAS THE FINAL STRAW. THAT WAS WHEN I REALISED THAT THE LAST PERSON I COULD TRUST COULD NO LONGER BE TRUSTED.

But yeah, chemtrails are real, chemtrail forums aren't. You have to seek out the nuggets, google radiative forcing, use your curiousity and search engine skills and up the awareness folks. A chemtrail show will be on the Discovery Channel I think on Feb. 8th. That if I am not mistaken will be our first Big Foot/ Bermuda Triangle/ JFK Assassination show. Fingers are crossed that they will give the true chemmies a fair showing.

[foot_soldier]

Hello,

A correction to the above-posted narrative is in order here:

There is no "Halva/ Chem11/ Deborah triangle."

Thank you.

[EdSnell]

Jeff, check your PM.


As for you Debbie (and you know who you are), I'm sure Jeff meant ménage Ã* trois.

[halva]

Socrates you have come to the right place. Anything goes here.

[halva]

And now Smellie will have someone to talk to.

[J-Vitum]

Hey Jeff,

I don't know why Swamp Gas banned you at the Gastronamus Cafe, i never got to see your post, i don't think many people did, it was deleted as fast as your were banned and there was little explanation as to why you where banned.

I don't think that Lou knows why you where banned but he posted this at Gastronamus in the "No Guest Allowed" thread, BTW Gastronamus is closed to everyone but members, thats why you can't read anything there, Swamp Gas has made it a private board now and i don't know if they will open it up again, Swamp has had it with the debunkers like Smell / Yaak comming in under so many names and disrupting the board, he might have jumped on you hard because of those idiots.

Anyway, not everyone thinks you deserved to be banned.

Altitudelou Re: "No Guest Allowed" « Reply #11 on Jan 25, 2007, 6:45pm »

"In defense of Socrates I think that everyone here has felt the frustrations that accompany the many and varied topics that are covered here, I believe that a lot of Socrates behavior stems from his own frustration and in this I can understand and symphonize with him but that's no excuse for rude behavior towards other members of the Gastronamus 'Beat' Cafe.

I wish Socrates the best and I'm sure that his post will show up elsewhere on other boards, Socrates is passionate if nothing else and a good poster when he does not take tings personally, all to often he does take things personally and then he goes off, perhaps this banning will be a lesson to him and remind him when he post at other boards that even in cyberspace there must be reasonable etiquette.

"And The Beat Goes On"
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Good luck Bro, see you around.

JV.

[halva]

No need for etiquette here. No need for anything here.

[EdSnell]

BTW Gastronamus is closed to everyone but members, thats why you can't read anything there, Swamp Gas has made it a private board now and i don't know if they will open it up again,

We certainly can "read anything there." I fixed that little problem.

Have you ever seen an ant farm J? That is what Gastro is like. Pissants scurrying around in their tunnels oblivious to the rest of the world that can peer through the glass and observe the ants anytime they wish.

For whatever it's worth, I suppose some of you have read that ants farm aphids, but were you aware that scorpions farm ants? My advice: watch out for scorpions.

Hurry back to your hole now, J, before you get eaten alive.

[halva]

Hello,

A correction to the above-posted narrative is in order here:

There is no "Halva/ Chem11/ Deborah triangle."

Thank you.

Jeff Reynolds, see if you can initiate with Foot_soldier the dialogue that I have failed to get off the ground. Address her directly, and with questions and observations, not name-calling. And no trying to play it to the aisles. There are no aisles here.

There is a problem about Foot_soldier's strategy. What is it?

[Big Bunny]

Socrates, you have my sincere condolences on your recent loss of a loved one. I was unaware of your loss until reading your post.