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    AONN Records and Chemtrail Central

    What a strange path we weave, continuously being steered by the Frankensteinian, behaviour pimps. I do not regret my entrance into the fray known as chemtrail forums. I did not go into them thinking the majority of the posters might not be real people. But sometimes the agents for the dark side have such an arrogance about their trolling techniques, that they put the bs directly in our faces. Like with the chemtrails, we need to start finding ways of transcending the huge bankroll backing their internet, trolling operations. They are so arrogant that they think they can control every social environment, but as Charlton Heston said in Planet of the Apes, get your stinking dirty paws off of me bitch or something like that. So on with the show.

    Look who showed up to Chemtrail Central on November 12th, 2004. It's everyone's good buddy, Robert Taylor, CEO of AONN Records.

    The reason why I signed up with Chemtrail was not to talk about Chem Trails. I signed up with the site because I found a post that someone had made pertaining to AONN. I had to laugh when I read the AONN blurb that someone had left {at}
    http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/...ML/000568.html

    One of the reasons why DSI was created, was to demonstrate how stupid people can be. Scowl and scoff if you will, but I think we did a pretty good job during the course of our war gaming. If you are reading this from anywhere in the world, know that AONN is not "Unholy." AONN/ DSI was a project designed to weed out radical elements in real world, geopolitical combat scenarios. It was fun. The idea was conceived by junior high school kids back in the 1980s when gangs had begun to overtake America's streets. All the conspiracies aside from what people other than those at AONN came up with, are just what they are--conspiracies. Hoaxes. Propaganda. Believe it or not, even in the 21st century, people still fall for this.

    AONN is not "in league with the forces of darkness" as people like Larry Lawson or whatever his name is, speculated. This is preposterous. It was all made up. We are AONN debunking ourselves so that haters can relax. Yes, we have been legitimate defense contractors, but the occult, paranormal, supernatural conspiracies were merely plays. Theater. It's beyond me that people can still be this stupid. Through defense security intelligence research and development, we did in fact test some of America's defense networks, but again, the weird and the bizarre were but a game. Recall the obviously government manufactured UFO conspiracies during the 20th century, in which our own government attempted to have our fellow citizens believe in extraterrestrial life, so as to take our minds off the government's actual Cold War objectives? Well, the same is true of AONN/ DSI. We made this stuff up. Many knew this, yes. But many didn't know this and believed in these "insane" suggestions. And it just goes to show how counterproductive we can be as humans and how weak minded we can be at times. It's all just entertainment folks. But this is not to say that extraterrestrial life does not exist, as we know it does, based on our collective observation. I simply meant that during the Cold War, our U.S. government played up the whole ET bit, i.e., the "aliens" with the big black oval eyes that now seem so commonplace in marketing and advertising.

    Next, the bigbrother address at dsispecialaccess.net has been deleted BY US, thank you. Some people had freaked out about its existence. And no one pressured us to remove this, or even suggested that it be done. No one forced our hand. Though, some people reported that "bigbrother" was on the rise. It's not real people. It was a spoof. Hello! A spoof! to illustrate how idiotic fascism is. We are not fascists. We are not Nazis. We are not Gestapo or the secret police. We didn't create ECHELON to spy on fellow citizens. We are not some shadow government. We are not cyborg killing machines. We are not anti-Christian, or anti-Muslim and we are not secret Zionist agents as some have said. Remember the Blair Witch Project? Well, I hate to say it, but it's the same deal. As corny as that sounds, it's the truth. Now, don't get me wrong, or, don't get it twisted as some would say, we do make records and we do, once again, work on defense projects. But none of the crazy ass stuff that you've heard about AONN is true in any way. We did not hijack a government Web site. We did not steal any government property or do anything inappropriate. I personally met face to face with government investigators in 2003. Don't be silly. AONN is not Satanic or connected to any stupid secret society. AONN is not the "Illuminati." AONN is a business group that specializes in digital media and computer information security. And AONN doesn't just make rap records. In fact, the November 12 Projekt features 39 different artists along with every genre from Folk, to Electronica, to Rock to Hip Hop. DSIN is actually a business enterprise that was created by AONN and affiliates and it is what it says it is. Chiefly, DSIN was created to test security and provide counterintelligence functions where governments lack. The latter only can be accomplished through what is known as war gaming. That's what we do. It's just a game people. Wake up and smell the aroma. So there you have it. Laugh a little. Don't be haters. Conspiracies, some of them, are genuine and potentially damaging on a wide scale, but AONN is not part of this conspiracy culture. Although I meant every word of what I said with regard to bizarre phenomena in Washington State. But again, relax dammit. If aliens wanted you dead, they would have taken you out billions of years ago. We are our own worst enemies, those who are the haters, conspirators and full-time conspiracy theorists, of course--the ones who believe everything they see and hear. LOL!

    Sincerely,

    Robert Taylor
    CEO/AONN Records
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    All of this pinpoints a real problem, and it is certainly about time for people like this to stop being their own worst enemies and to acquire worse enemies. This doesn't necessarily mean targeting them in particular. It may mean evading them and finally surrounding and enclosing them. The world certainly deserves something better than the science-fiction culture they and the United States in general have come to embody.
    Let us deal gently with the truth. No more scaremongering: about nukes, about the climate, about terrorists, about anything.

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    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forum...hp/t-3575.html


    posted by Mntsnow
    ...Until recently, visitors to the AONN.gov Web site were treated to a smorgasbord of information about an agency calling itself the Access One Network Northwest (AONN), a self-described cyberwarfare unit that claimed the support of the U.S. Department of Defense. However, no federal agency called AONN appears to exist, and no agency with that name is on the official list of organizations maintained by the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology.

    The General Services Administration, which runs the .gov registry, pulled the domain on Jan. 24, after a query from CNET News.com. The action could point to the first case of a .gov domain name hijacking.




    http://news.com.com/2100-1023-983384.html

    Feds pull suspicious .gov site
    By Declan McCullagh
    Staff Writer, CNET News.com
    Published: February 5, 2003, 4:00 AM PST


    WASHINGTON--In a move that raises questions about the security of governmental domains, the Bush administration has pulled the plug on a .gov Web site pending an investigation into the authenticity of the organization that controlled it.

    Until recently, visitors to the AONN.gov Web site were treated to a smorgasbord of information about an agency calling itself the Access One Network Northwest (AONN), a self-described cyberwarfare unit claiming to employ more than 2,000 people and had the support of the U.S. Department of Defense.

    No federal agency called AONN appears to exist, and no agency with that name is on the official list of organizations maintained by the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology.
    The General Services Administration (GSA), which runs the .gov registry, pulled the domain on Jan. 24, after a query from CNET News.com.

    "There are questions about the authenticity of the Web site that includes the AONN name," the agency said in an e-mail reply. "Until the situation is resolved, we have eliminated the URL from the .gov directory name server."

    The action could point to the first case of a .gov domain name hijacking.

    The GSA investigation raises questions about the integrity of federal Web sites at a time when the Bush administration is touting electronic government initiatives. President Bush signed the E-Government Act of 2002 in December, and the IRS in January began a program to encourage Americans to file their taxes electronically.

    Cybersquatting, or registering a domain to which you may not be entitled, is hardly uncommon among the multitude of .com and .net domains. In 1999, President Bill Clinton signed an anticybersquatting law, and an alternate process through which domain names can be challenged has resulted in more than 11,000 domain names being transferred away from the parties who had registered them.

    But there are no known cybersquatting incidents involving a governmental domain, according to the GSA. "I'm not aware of any incident" in the past when an unapproved individual has gained control of a .gov domain name, an agency representative said.

    Chris Casey, who in 1995 helped to create Congress' first Web sites and now runs a Web design company called Casey.com, says he was surprised to hear that AONN had apparently secured a .gov name, and said a misappropriated .gov domain could create confusion among Web users.
    "I'm not aware of it ever happening before," Casey said. ".gov, .edu and .mil carry a feeling of trustworthiness...People have learned to place more faith in them."

    AONN's background

    Claiming credit for the deleted .gov site is a man who calls himself Robert L. Taylor III, whose name and contact information appeared in documents on the AONN.gov site.

    Taylor, who appears to reside near Everett, Wash., declined to explain how, exactly, he secured a .gov domain for the group, calling AONN's operations "classified."

    "We have exploited a security hole in the bureaucracy," Taylor said in a telephone interview. "There are loopholes, there are security holes, there are holes in the system."

    On its now-deleted site, AONN contended its "U.S. Defense Security Intelligence Network" (DSIN) was launched at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government last year, but Doug Gavel, the Kennedy School's communications director, says he's not aware of any such program. Similarly, AONN said its champion in Congress is Rep. Jay Inslee, D-Wash., whose office categorically denies it. A Senate Budget Committee representative said he had never heard of AONN.

    A Pentagon representative also said that AONN has no affiliation with the U.S. military and he had no knowledge of the organization.

    It's unclear when the site was first registered or how Taylor may have taken control of a .gov domain. According to the official .gov registration rules, only organizations that appear in an official list of government agencies qualify for a .gov domain--and AONN is not on it. If AONN were a legitimate Defense Department agency, it would have to register a .mil--rather than a .gov--domain name.

    One loophole exists for city and state governments, which were allowed to register .gov domains before the current rules took effect in May 1997. Such registrations are no longer permitted. But local and state governments with existing sites, such as the state of California's ca.gov, were allowed to keep them.

    Registering a .gov domain name involves writing an authorization letter--two samples are provided on the GSA Web site--printing it out, and then sending it to the ".GOV Domain Manager" in Reston, Va. The GSA would not comment on what security measures were in place, and what changes, if any, have been made.

    The GSA's safeguards don't provide foolproof security, says Adrian Lamo, a hacker and social engineer who claims to have penetrated computer systems run by The New York Times and a string of other corporations.

    "The process isn't intended to stop anyone who isn't going to be stopped by the need to go to Kinko's, print out some letterhead and then send an honest-to-God postal letter," Lamo said. "It'll stop the people that are willing to break any rule, as long as they can fill out a Web form to do it. And that eliminates 95 percent of pranks."

    If someone expressed interest in AONN, Taylor would send them a 122-page PDF file containing buzzwords such as "computer intrusion teams, "beyond state-of-the-art super computing... next level broad-range security systems, cyber warfighting, highly advanced satellite technologies and nano-technologies." It described AONN as a "joint-counterstrike force (that) possesses such a culmination of some of the world's brightest and most brilliant intellect, intelligentsia, academicians and minds, it can quite easily be said that the AONN DSI concept by itself is worth multibillions."

    A notice on AONN.gov offered to "split payment on contract disbursements" with its fund-raisers. Taylor also offered this deal to potential buyers: "You come up with fifty million dollars and we'll sign contracts as well as deliver both human assets and the DSIN program."

    Taylor would not say if he had collected any money from corporations and individuals as a result of these offers.

    Besides claiming to be a military intelligence agency, AONN also said it has an "emerging and expensive clothing line" and an urban and R&B record label that has signed "certified platinum artists." In November 2000, a company named AONN Records released a CD called November 12 Projekt that a local newspaper described as a collaboration of "two ambitious young rappers."
    Taylor said that that AONN.gov and AONN Records are the same.

    No company named AONN Records or Access One Network Northwest is listed with directory assistance, and the Washington state government has no record of a company with either name being incorporated.

    AONN Records' CD release appears to have been distributed by The Orchard, which provides a vehicle for independent musicians to sell to online stores such as Amazon.com and CDNow.com. The Orchard could not locate AONN Records or Robert Taylor in its files. A representative said that would be the case if The Orchard no longer carried the November 12 Projekt CD.

    One document Taylor distributed from his Hotmail account this week, called a "Special Projects Dossier," lists excerpts from job applications apparently sent to him by intelligence officers seeking employment.

    "Some have suggested it is a spoof by a rock group who has misused the aonn.com and aonn.gov registrations," a representative for the Association of Former Intelligence Officers said this week. "How they obtained the (top-level domain) of .gov is baffling and shows a flaw in the registration system that could create greater mischief in other hands."
    I recommend that people don't click on the dead links to the aonn "hoax" military website. It will try to download something on ye. But there are a few places one can go that seem safe.

    I have looked the psy-op trolls straight in the eye, and am wondering how they can be so arrogant to put things right in front of our faces. I cannot be the only person who notices this. In fact I know I am not. Putting chemtrails to the side, a lot of people realize there are paid trolls all over the internet. This AONN dude is into music and psy-ops. What a great guy!
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    So I am curious why there is no final story to this dude.

    How did he get the .gov web address?
    Did he go to jail, face trial???
    Or did he shove in our faces some ugly truths about the internet, that spooks are making a mockery out of real things such as chemtrails and cia torture, illegal wars, etc. by shoving tinfoil down our faces to the point that we just want to watch The Daily Show and Colbert??

    Here are some very interesting links I found on this topic.

    http://home.flash.net/~manniac/corp.htm

    http://home.flash.net/~manniac/corp2.htm

    AONN Records Major Label Certified-
    Dark Alliance?
    AP London Reporter
    sent in by SamonsOulette

    Air America, Bell Helicopters, and Now Access One Network Northwest.

    In the world’s most highly competitve game next to espionage and perhaps life itself, referred to by many of its players and sideline watchers as "the rap game," often lines blur. Rap is no longer just street poetry, but part of a larger multimedia and political apparatus, and therefore the industry could in fact be very susceptible to the business of tradecraft, especially since it is worth hundreds upon billions of dollars.

    Access One Network Northwest the Northwest round-1 financed powerhouse recording company and multimedia conglomerate has secured U.S. national to international brick-and-mortar distribution of its products through its AONN Records division and various other sources such as Transworld, AEC and other major record distributors. However, this arrangement is quite different from the widely popular online distribution of independent artists’ music via mp3.com and other common channels through which ambitious artists market themselves. Incidentally, AONN is a government entity.

    The plot thickens as congratulations were expressed by guests and fans alike last Friday at an all night V.I.P. event hosted by numerous high profile artists, DJs, and industry personalities at a plush downtown New York City ballroom. Many of the AONN Records artists who had recently completed a 2 year U.S. 50 state and world tour, which included platinum and gold artists as well as first-round draft picks that admantly signed to the Pacific Northwest-based roster, were in full attendance. As more of the epic story is released to the public, what is quickly being understood, is that there was a nearly decade-and-a-half fight that had ensued to land the non-traditional, unprecedented, multiple-distributor and intentionally secured behind the scenes deal. Apparently the company’s researchers were able to create a new, working, recording industry model for the 21st Century that still has analysts from other companies completely baffled by the rocket science maneuver. It seems as if this was some kind of cosmic plan that required at least well over a decade or two for that matter, of planning and such, by a group of individuals, not just one person. But, the larger question is what kind of entity could have managed to persist in such a quest, keep things as organized as this one did, while keeping as many members as there apparently are together for so long, all the while keeping an astronomically vast amount of information entrusted to what appears to be a considerably-sized city worth of people, all under wraps? And along the way it’s evident that there were silent partners in addition to both public and private funding. There had to have been such. So how is this possible?

    A number of senior industry executives from among the Big Five music group have recently remarked that AONN Records has become the 'model record label of the future.' AONN, developed in the Northwest high-technology capital of the world, through more than 13 years of politics and university level analysis, monitored all available industry data, created new, revolutionary information systems and methodologies, thereby creating a new music recording industry unto itself, increasing membership of the upper music industry eschelon, taking things back up a notch becoming the Big 6th company. There were originally the Big 7. By way of new math, new art, and advanced sciences, AONN Records had studied closely every conceivable and available instance of emerging and leading-edge technology, resources management, and Information Theory. Leading the way in new information science and information theory, and doing business as Access One Network Northwest, AONN Records is now estimated to be worth $2.6 billion. Intellectual properties from top signing artists alone are believed to be valued at $1.3 billion.

    Earlier this month, Access One Network Northwest founder, CEO, and Chief IT Analyst, Robert L. Taylor III, and Information Systems Specialist, conglomerate co-founder, and longtime business partner, Arlo Logozzo, from affiliate company PC Tech Express, met with military officials, members of Congress and other top D.C. policymakers regarding new defense initiatives for the year 2001 and beyond. Over 100 Pacific Northwest high tech companies, which includes PC Net Express, a third company working with AONN and part of the original conglomerate charter, have come together to re-invent the computing industry. PC Net Express CEO/Chief Technician Mike Reed helps lead the way through the complex New Silicon Valley maze. When AONN company representatives and MIC appeared at a press conference during 4th quarter 2001, what was already known within certain industry circles, was made public. Legendary music television video producer Gordon Curvey of Music Inner City Television in Western Washington, announced that MIC would release approximately 11 years of never before heard or seen major label stories and interviews. Music Inner City has greater television coverage than KOMO 4, KING 5, and KIRO 7, which are the largest news networks in the Puget Sound. The previously unreleased behind the scenes footage that includes highlights such as the controversial 2000 Source Music Awards footage captured on video by Novelist of super group KansasCali, is said to be in the several millions of dollars bracket. Moving Music Inner City to satellite television will give Washington State major label artists, industry celebrities and personalities coverage in every country in the world. MIC had already won the #1 video music show award. Now, the show will be on the same level as MTV, BET, and VH1.

    Some AONN Records employees interviewed by various news agencies, indicated that when they had been students at Pacific Northwest colleges and universities, they had interned at Music Inner City Television before a powerful alliance between the two networks had been formed. While, other AONN employees indicated they were active military enlisted. Why are so many ex-military and active duty military personnel rushing to file in the ranks at AONN Records? Hmm? And I have never heard of so many outspoken and proclaimed Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice fans in one place, until watching AONN company interviews on MSNBC and CNN. So what is really going on? And now with a growing list of already legendary CD releases such as The November 12 Projekt featuring the hit single "I Didn’t Know" by KansasCali and the Young Chile-Operation Northwest Nationwide LP, AONN has become a media giant. In addition to the recent successful and high profile campaigns, AONN provides human resources, complex major media technical support, sales and marketing functions, and political consulting for Music Inner City Television, which is major label sponsored and has featured every week without fail, Hollywood and music industry celebrities for 11 years going on 12. MIC Television has been watched by 1.1 million homes every week for approximately 1 year on AT&T Digital Cable, has had a steady weekly increase in viewers, and will soon be making its historical move to international satellite broadcast. Currently at MIC there is an alternating 24-hour radio show on demand featuring drops by Run DMC, LL Cool J, Too $hort and countless other legendary artists. In the past, MIC has even had a drop by former President Bill Clinton when he was in Washington State.
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    (contd.)
    Working with the commercial, private, and academic sectors, AONN Records made a beeline for the top. Or..., did the masquerading genius Navy Brat whose mother spent official extended stays in Virginia, Maryland, and D.C. mingling with the social elite and her top military pals at the Pentagon, and whose father trained both U.S. and foreign soldiers in the Army, strike a deal with the Darkside? This billions-of-dollars-in intellectual-properties-amassed-went-to-war-with-an-entire-crooked-police-force-at-age-19-shadow-prince is no pauper as he would lead close friends to believe for close to ten years. What many folks don’t realize is this is the same kid who in 1977 was in a special program for 2 year olds to learn Franklin computer architecture at Everett High School and similar programs at other institutions of academia. This is the same kid who subsequently began to design supercomputers at age 2 and a half, had his whole school curriculum and grading system faked, and whose father is a sociologist, military investigations retired, and mother a communications intelligence officer retired supposedly.
    This kid is no geek. This is the same track star, gymnast, marksman, video game champion who confidential sources indicate was somehow granted an assassination clearance. This is the same kid who when everyone else seemed to be sleeping, predicted within two weeks prior to September 11, 2001, that an attack would soon take place; the same kid who in a recent press release, expressed to the Bush Administration as well as reporters, "I profoundly emphasize that this was something conceived long ago, years prior to the unfortunate events related to September 11. In fact, Ms. Marianne Ruuth and many others can attest to this since she and others had received letters pertaining to my concern that something like the event would take place. Approximately 2 weeks after I had sent out mail regarding this, which is still hardcoded in the email internet delivery system, was the attack. Despite having made the projection so close to the time of the attack, I was nevertheless devastated and considerably shocked. I, as other cyber geeks, had sensed for some time that this would occur. A couple weeks preceding the plane crashes, I sensed a collective build up of lost direction, misdirection, frustration, and dysfunctionality in our society. I believe the terrorists had planned and waited for this very moment. This is obviously not a hoax. As a result of the terrorist event that took place, I have vowed to God, my family, colleagues, society, and self, that I will dedicate my life to fighting world terrorism and government corruption. This has always been my code as a peaceful warrior, but I have now been forced to take military action. I am taking a stand. A geek I am and a geek I shall forever be. Revealed is that which my colleagues and I had already started, but have recently solidified..."
    Then, if that wasn’t deep enough, McAfee, the #1 personal computer security company in the world had the following to say:

    "From: ‘Klein, Dyana’ Chief of Executive Marketing (McAfee Corp.) To: 'Ignition Partners'
    CC: ‘R.TaylorIII/OneSirGrove’
    Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:10:01 -0800
    Hi there!

    This is just an informational email to make you aware that I am discussing a potential opportunity with Robert Taylor of AONN, as a result of McAfee.com's relationship with MP3.com. McAfee.com recently did a promotion with MP3.com wherein we licensed music for a special offer we created for those who purchased our product. I developed that relationship and manage the program. The response was excellent, such that we are continuing the relationship. AONN owned one or more of those licensed songs. I didn't actually hear the material myself, but I do know that enough people were intrigued with the offer enough to purchase our product. As a result of this relationship, I am now looking into the proposal sent to me by Mr. Taylor.
    Thanks very much,

    -Dyana Klein

    McAfee.com"
    AONN News and Financial Upate for Monday February 18, 2002:
    In the third week of December 2001, Access One Network Northwest IT-conglomerate/multimedia division AONN Records had received a first suggested preliminary offer of $6 million at 10% investor ownership. Based on the rendered model, such contract would equate to roughly 30% government ownership in addition to the hypothetical 10% to total 40% government and publicly controlled interests in the company. Clearly, that was only the beginning of round-2 finance for the company as AONN proceeded to resume negotiations starting second week January 2002. Rounds will continue on through the third quarter 2002 and analysts have indicated that total acquisition is estimated to be worth several billion dollars.

    The same kid who is also really a politician, oh, and I almost forgot, a scientist; and has this profile:
    "Twenty-something affiliate of PCNetExpress, IT Analyst, Robert L. Taylor III, from Access One Network Northwest/AONN Records, is well known by virtue of a number of major industry multimedia successes. One such success of many came about in 2001 when R.L Taylor III released to the world the now legendary, full-length, multi-genres music cd "AONN Records Presents: The November 12 Projekt" featuring thirty-nine Washington State Original Artists, including two artists that had previously been certified platinum. With a strong background in Research & Development, Advanced Information Science Theory, Military Studies, Human Resources Management, Business Law, and Electronics, R.L Taylor III has worked to bridge the gap between the technology and music industries. Management Information Systems scientist, R.L. Taylor III has had paramount experience as an artist, futurologist, IT theorist, and had prior to the formation of Access One Network Northwest (AONN) in 1995 by university students working with the Delta Iota Epsilon (D.I.E/Deep In Everett, Washington) fraternity, been a youth government leader. Now as a quite young, political consultant, politician himself, and Federation of American Scientists supporter/advocate, R.L. Taylor III works with cutting-edge and computer information technologies industry leader, PCNetExpress, to develop beyond state-of-the-art systems for the 21st Century renaissance.

    The same kid whose high powered legal team recently unveiled that AONN was partnering with McAfee and the following official letter:

    AONN partners with the #1 personal computer security company in the United States, which accounted for $834 million in FY 2001 revenues:

    "Network Associates/McAfee Rep. and Channel Account Manager, Laura Poynor:

    To: AONN

    Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:39:24 "0600

    We have a tremendous Executive Team in place with a lot of Channel experience, and we are focused on our partnerships. It sounds like we will work well together, and I look forward to the partnership.

    Please let me know what time would be best for you in February, morning would be best if possible. -Best Regards"

    The same kid from the same company that has the following portfolio:

    1. Approximately 2,000 members and 105 contractors payrolled
    2. Worldwide distribution of compact discs and other products available in brick and mortar retail outlets
    3. To begin with, 2 certified platinum artists signed to the multimedia group
    4. Creation of a platform to support major multimedia productions (e.g. Hollywood movies -trailers available online)
    5. A music and digital television network on which Former President Bill Clinton appeared while in Seattle; This network is moving to satellite broadcast to be available in roughly 130 countries
    6. A high-powered and specialized legal team
    7. A full-on IT division, which consists of web hosting, webpage development, custom software design, etc., and is capable of providing any conceivable product or service in the world of computer and Information Technologies
    8. An emerging and expensive clothing line with product now available
    9. Over 100 companies in the network
    10. Sponsorship by major U.S. corporations and involvement in such campaigns

    The same kid that "deciphered the New Silicon Valley Code" and has "the solution to the IT-Corridor dilemma"...the same kid that offered "part of the solution to Washington State economic shortcomings after the dot-com fallout." And said, "I can give you everything you are looking for times 1000...and in a fraction of the usual pace. I am that geek."

    AONN also seems to be in the business of "new satellite technologies, breakthrough AI (artificial intelligence) systems, robotic components, and pico-technologies, for example."
    It also appears that AONN has a practice of hiring "mathematicians, economists, logicians, statisticians, actuarial scientists, ballistics experts, stenographers, lexicographers, military liaison, government, political, and media connections. Other specialists include but are not limited to investigative scientists, computer scientists, hackers, computer repair experts, and natural, physical, and life scientists." That’s quite ironic for a record company to be hiring such a cadre of music related professionals.

    Next, after a hiatus resulting from certain company officers having been caught in the midst of what could only be described as a conflict involving inter-government corruption and scandal, several years underground, AONN Records emerged victorious and ready to fight the next battle. The company had initially established a number of both international and influential connections, conducting a great deal of its operations in plain secrecy and for obvious reasons in light of Washington State’s internationally known political turmoil.

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    Consumers have already begun to refer to AONN as the Microsoft of the music industry and others have said the new market is analogous to professional and major league sports including teams, starters, and first-round draft picks. In the past 6 months, AONN Records has appeared in countless advertisements and major media publications. Officially, with certified platinum and gold musical artists as part of the network, and a monumental portfolio, AONN Records took over major operations for a number of West Coast artist management collectives, labels, media agencies, and publishing firms. Network operations for the aforementioned entities have been consolidated and moved to the Northwest High-Technology Corridor Region as the multimedia economy has shifted with said area as the global multimedia industry’s focus and new hub.

    A high profile AONN Records company interview is being published in the forthcoming book "Skin Deep" written by famous author and former Hollywood Foreign Film Press President/current Golden Globe Awards Administrator, Marianne Ruuth. Skin Deep has been fully funded, is paid for, and is tentatively scheduled for a third quarter 2002 release in bookstores worldwide via Melrose in LA. Ms. Ruuth, is recognized as having authored the biographies of Oprah Winfrey and Bill Cosby, as well as the biographies of many other celebrities and dignitaries world renown.

    AONN Records has currently been working with Grammy Award Winning Producer of the Year, Narada Michael Walden’s Terry Cerillo. Narada Michael Walden produced Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston, and Mariah Carey. 20 year old Cerrillo, who is considered to be a next Soul Diva, had auditioned for placement on the Austin Powers III soundtrack, which, at some point, was rumored to have included music by Madonna. And Miller Genuine Draft contacted AONN Records expressing interest in the label and has so far paid for licensing to use the Kansas Cali "I Didn’t Know" single (track 19) from the AONN Records Presents: The November 12 Projekt for a 30 day MGD.com, international television, radio, and internet campaign. Consequently, AONN Records was exposed to every U.S. market, in effect, blanketing the entire United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, and other foreign territories. Presently, AONN Records has songs playing on actual, not online, radio stations in countries as far away as Japan.

    Giving Back to the Community So Soon?

    In one week, AONN Records moved to the public 35,000 units of the "I Didn’t Know" (The Full-Length Hit!) through a corporate deal that the beyond space age firm had negotiated. Remarkably and what could also be considered unprecedented, are 5 versions of the song including a Montreal Quebec Remix. Now that the label is famous and AONN Records artists and executives are celebrities, the network is working with both legends and the newest brightest stars and already giving back to the community. The label has won a great number of contests and broken a myriad of industry records. The November 12 Projekt was nominated by S.A.M.I.E. (Seattle Area Musical Innovation and Excellence award council) for Best Multi-genres Album of the Year 2000 and was listed next to other nominees such as famous groups Pearl Jam and Queensryche that were listed in other categories. The Access One Network Northwest/AONN Records company portfolio is undoubtedly extraordinary for a later-stage growth company moving into round-2 finance. But, how is all this made possible? The rumor is that AONN secretly works with complex and highly advanced applied mathematics and out-of-this-world cryptographic formulas and cipher systems.

    Then Again, On the Surface

    Recents concerts for the network include a KansasCali performance at Las Vegas’ famous House of Blues with Brian McKnight, Snoop & the Dogg Pound, Too $hort, the Liks, Sir Jinx, Spice 1, Shaq, and others as guests. Other recents shows have been Young Chile and AONN roster at Showdown Prodcutions/Nanino/Jimmy Z, Tone Loc, N2Deep, and Sir Mix A Lot Concert series. Featured artists appearing on Projekt N12, KansasCali, consists of two members, Novelist of Kansas (has since moved to EVT/Everett, Washington) and Pittboss of California. Novelist is no newcomer to the music industry, having already showcased on a couple of hit records. Aulsondro "Novelist" Hamilton’s portolio showcases past projects on Columbia Records/Columbia Pictures, THUMP, and Mercury Records, among other major labels. He has written songs for the now legendary Latin group, Lighter Shade of Brown, opening the door for Latin Rap. The songs "If You Wanna Groove" and "Dip Into My Ride" are now on greatest hits albums. Anderson "Pitboss" Johnson Jr., comes from an extensive background of r&b and recording as well as producing and writing with artists such as 702 and 98 Degrees. Pittboss is also a member of a four man singing group called "VVS," which is known for its soulful r&b with a gospel feel. Novelist was introduced to AONN Reocrds’ CEO, Robert Taylor III by De’Jon Jack H. Clark, Vice President of Snohomish County Arts Guild, owner of De'Nov Entertainment and Collage Music Group, and brother of the famous LA producer for Project Blowed, Fat Jack. Novelist and Robert Taylor III linked up and history was made. Access One Network Northwest began in 1995 as an association of college and university business, computer science, and information technology (IT) students, grew exponentionally, and has become a major record label consisting of over 105 artists, reaching thousands in human resources, and a global multimedia conglomerate sponsored by major U.S. and international corporations"and some other folks apparently.

    You can call column writer and correspondent Andrea Harper at UK Associated Press or send e-mail to info@ www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/

    [Editors note- Don't take any of the comments in this article personally. If you are offended by any of the comments within this article, just remember this one very important thing: The Lone Conspirators cannot be held responsible for any of the actions/writings contained in this website that may contain obscene/offensive material. Don't believe us? Then read our Mission Statement.]
    I want to know how he got that web address. I want to know if he was charged for hacking. I want to know if he put out a bit of psy-op stew to cover up for the truth of there really being something fishy going on as regards to psy-ops.

    So he takes the time to write at Chemtrail Central. Wonder what Thermit thinks about the CTC Changes thread{s}. I say thread{s} because there might have been a bunch of them. I remember there was a lot to it, and I think they will shed a lot of light on the psy-op script.
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    Hmmm, I came across this post by "pilgrim" through googling for "25 disinformation troll tactics".

    http://www.kurzweilai.net/mindx/fram...rootID%3D33053
    This format will not work. The Spooks/Trolls post LIES here, but we're supposed to trust them about their identities? I said before that in the interest of getting to the bottom of this, I have no problem with the site administrators looking into IP addy's, etc. and posting anything interesting they may find.

    I'd be interested in passing that info on, and comparing it to other such information collected by the IMC's, etc. who have exposed Spooks several times.

    Sorry if I don't want to disclose personal info to people I think are Gov't agents, or worse, the Useful Idiots from the Hate Sites which recruit such Trolls, like "Free Republic, LGF, Kobe HQ", etc.

    The second may prove more dangerous ...

    But either way, I don't really care. This is simply about Distraction, and sadly, it's working.

    There is at least one Spook/Troll that has been dispatched here, since people on this board started discussing the criminals currently occupying the White House.

    This happens wherever these types of dicussions are taking place. The Indpendent Media network, - http://www.indymedia.org - and sites like it, have been infected with them since 2001, and have exposed many of them already.

    The Government maintains an army of "Cyber Warriors", but there is also a legion of willing volunteers who also do this work, dispatched by Hate Sites such as Free Republic, LGF, etc ... On a site dealing with technology, I thought this would be taken more seriously.

    Their purpose is to Distract, try to get people off-topic, chasing their tails, to confuse people, and their Modus Operandi is to start posts such as this, and insinuate things about certain problem posters, after their regurgitations of WH Propaganda reaches its acceptable limit, and they can take it no further.

    It would appear that this is what all this "who is who/AI?" material is intended to do.

    It should be pointed out that this only began after the entity known best as "jrichard" was backed up against the wall, and couldn't defend his (PNAC's) BS any further. Then he "disappeared" and the rest of the Merry G-Men showed up again ... as noted in "The 25 tactics of Disinformation".

    I called these entities Spooks because they act like them. They dump BS here, and as soon as anyone questions it, they spew insults, then FLEE, to start another one-way post of horse from the LIARS they support.

    Then once in a while, they attempt to clear the air with dramatics such as these. Once they've distanced themselves from their demonstrated dishonesty, they start right up again, as if nothing had ever happened.

    I've never heard real people communicate in such a manner. There are patterns to the Spook/Trolls, and I've experienced it waaay too many times.

    It has nothing to do with disagreements or differences of opinion. It is their complete lack of discussion, their disconnect from what gets posted, which gives them away.
    This is from a response by Subtillion, and I think this sums up what's happening quite nicely.

    "indeed. The pattern is clear. This difference is ancient and was explored in great detail by Plato long ago. It is that of sophistry (empty rhetoric) versus the dialectic (e.g. Socratic two-way HONEST questioning and skeptical discussion). The sophists took pride in being able to argue and convince people of ANYTHING including the most obvious of absurdities. They have a knack for convincing the masses of their lies and generating applause for subverting the dialectical process of uncovering the truth. They prey on those with less-developed rhetorical skill AND MORE HONESTY. They use words like an octopus uses ink.

    It seems, however, that they are now turning their tongues against the foundation of this site, Ray Kurzweil and the "singularity" meme etc.. Arguably a good sophistic strategy. Stir up "irrelevant" heated discussion and chaos while discrediting the stereotype of thinkers at this site."

    Anything to keep us from discussing the growing Fascism inherent in the anti-intellectual revolution under PNAC, their existing War Crimes, and their plots to expand this Madness.
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    http://www.benfrank.net/disinfo/

    25 Tactics for Truth Suppression
    tactics used by disinformation agents
    stooges for the elite


    1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.


    2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used to show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit.

    Example: "How dare you suggest that the Branch Davidians were murdered! the FBI and BATF are made up of America's finest and best trained law enforcement, operate under the strictest of legal requirements, and are under the finest leadership the President could want to appoint."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the Waco issue with disinformation tactics. Your high opinion of FBI is not founded in fact. All you need do is examine Ruby Ridge and any number of other examples, and you will see a pattern that demands attention to charges against FBI/BATF at Waco. Why do you refuse to address the issues with disinformation tactics (rule 2 - become incredulous and indignant)?


    3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such "arguable rumors". If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a "wild rumor" which can have no basis in fact.

    "You can't prove his material was legitimately from French Intelligence. Pierre Salinger had a chance to show his 'proof' that Flight 800 was brought down by friendly fire, and he didn't. All he really had was the same old baseless rumor that's been floating around the Internet for months."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. The Internet charge reported widely is based on a single FBI interview statement to media and a supportive statement by a Congressman who has not actually seen Pierre's document. As the FBI is being accused in participating in a cover up of this matter and Pierre claims his material is not Internet sourced, it is natural that FBI would have reason to paint his material in a negative light. For you to assume the FBI to have no bias in the face of Salinger's credentials and unchanged stance suggests you are biased. At the best you can say the matter is in question. Further, to imply that material found on Internet is worthless is not founded. At best you may say it must be considered carefully before accepting it, which will require addressing the actual issues. Why do you refuse to address these issues with disinformation tactics (rule 3 - create rumor mongers)?


    4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

    Example: When trying to defeat reports by the Times of London that spy-sat images reveal an object racing towards and striking Flight 800, a straw man is used. "If these exist, the public has not seen them."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You imply deceit and deliberately establish an impossible and unwarranted test. It is perfectly natural that the public has not seen them, nor will they for some considerable time, if ever. To produce them would violate national security with respect to intelligence gathering capabilities and limitations, and you should know this. Why do you refuse to address the issues with such disinformation tactics (rule 4 - use a straw man)?


    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

    Example: "You believe what you read in the Spotlight? The Publisher, Willis DeCarto, is a well-known right-wing racist. I guess we know your politics -- does your Bible have a swastika on it? That certainly explains why you support this wild-eyed, right-wing conspiracy theory."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply guilt by association and attack truth on the basis of the messenger. The Spotlight is a well known Populist media source responsible for releasing facts and stories well before mainstream media will discuss the issues through their veil of silence. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 5 - sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule)?


    6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

    Example: "This stuff is garbage. Where do you conspiracy lunatics come up with this crap? I hope you all get run over by black helicopters." Notice it even has a farewell sound to it, so it won't seem curious if the author is never heard from again.

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your comments or opinions fail to offer any meaningful dialog or information, and are worthless except to pander to emotionalism, and in fact, reveal you to be emotionally insecure with these matters. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 6 - hit and run)?


    7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

    Example: "With the talk-show circuit and the book deal, it looks like you can make a pretty good living spreading lies."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply guilt as a means of attacking the messenger or his credentials, but cowardly fail to offer any concrete evidence that this is so. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 6 - question motives)?


    8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough "jargon" and "minutia" to illustrate you are "one who knows", and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

    "You obviously know nothing about either the politics or strategic considerations, much less the technicals of the SR-71. Incidentally, for those who might care, that sleek plane is started with a pair of souped up big-block V-8's (originally, Buick 454 C.I.D. with dual 450 CFM Holly Carbs and a full-race Isky cams -- for 850 combined BHP @ 6,500 RPM) using a dragster-style clutch with direct-drive shaft. Anyway, I can tell you with confidence that no Blackbird has ever been flown by Korean nationals have ever been trained to fly it, and have certainly never overflown the Republic of China in a SR or even launched a drone from it that flew over China. I'm not authorized to discuss if there have been overflights by American pilots."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply your own authority and expertise but fail to provide credentials, and you also fail to address issues and cite sources. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 8 - invoke authority)?


    9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

    Example: "Nothing you say makes any sense. Your logic is idiotic. Your facts nonexistent. Better go back to the drawing board and try again."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your evade the issues with your own form of nonsense while others, perhaps more intelligent than you pretend to be, have no trouble with the material. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 9 - play dumb)?
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    The 25 Rules for Disinformation(contd.)

    10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

    Example: "Flight 553's crash was pilot error, according to the NTSB findings. Digging up new witnesses who say the CIA brought it down at a selected spot and were waiting for it with 50 agents won't revive that old dead horse buried by NTSB more than twenty years ago."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your ignore the issues and imply they are old charges as if new information is irrelevant. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 10 - associate charges with old news)?


    11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the "high road" and "confess" with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, "just isn't so." Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for "coming clean" and "owning up" to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

    Example: "Reno admitted in hindsight she should have taken more time to question the data provided by subordinates on the deadliness of CS-4 and the likely Davidian response to its use, but she was so concerned about the children that she elected, in what she now believes was a sad and terrible mistake, to order the tear gas be used."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your evade the true issue by focusing on a side issue in an attempt to evoke sympathy. Perhaps you did not know that CIA Public Relations expert Mark Richards was called in to help Janet Reno with the Waco aftermath response? How warm and fuzzy feeling it makes us, so much so that we are to ignore more important matters? Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 11 - establish and rely upon fall-back positions)?


    12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

    Example: "I don't see how you can claim Vince Foster was murdered since you can't prove a motive. Before you could do that, you would have to completely solve the whole controversy over everything that went on in the White House and Arkansas, and even then, you would have to know a heck of a lot more about what went on within the NSA, the Travel Office, and on, and on, and on. It's hopeless. Give it up."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your completely evade issues and attempt others from daring to attempt it by making it a much bigger mountain than necessary. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 12 - enigmas have no solution)?


    13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

    Example: "The news media operates in a fiercely competitive market where stories are gold. This means they dig, dig, dig for the story -- often doing a better job than law enforcement. If there was any evidence that BATF had prior knowledge of the Oklahoma City bombing, they would surely have uncovered it and reported it. They haven't reported it, so there can't have been any prior knowledge. Put up or shut up."

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your backwards logic does not work here. Has the media reported the CIA killed Kennedy when they knew it? No, despite their presence at a courtroom testimony "confession" by CIA operative Marita Lornez in a liable trial between E. Howard Hunt and Liberty Lobby, they only told us the trial verdict. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 13 - Alice in Wonderland logic)?


    14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best items qualifying for rule 10.

    Example: "Since you know so much, if James Earl Ray is innocent as you claim, who really killed Martin Luther King, how was it planned and executed, how did they frame Ray and fool the FBI, and why?"

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. It is not necessary to completely resolve any full matter in order to examine any relative attached issue. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 14 - demand complete solutions)?


    15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

    Example: The best definitive example of avoiding issues by this technique is, perhaps, Arlan Specter's Magic Bullet from the Warren Report.

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imaginative twisting of facts rivals that of Arlan Specter's Magic Bullet in the Warren Report. We all know why the magic bullet was invented. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 15 - invoke authority)?


    16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.

    Example: "You can't say Paisley is still alive... that his death was faked and the list of CIA agents found on his boat deliberately placed there to support a purge at CIA. You have no proof. Why can't you accept the Police reports?" True, since the dental records and autopsy report showing his body was two inches too long and the teeth weren't his were lost right after his wife demanded inquiry, and since his body was cremated before she could view it -- all that remains are the Police Reports. Handy.

    Proper response: There is no suitable response to actual vanished materials or persons, unless you can shed light on the matter, particularly if you can tie the event to a cover up or other criminality. However, with respect to dialog where it is used against the discussion, you can respond... You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. The best you can say is that the matter is in contention based on highly suspicious matters which themselves tend to support the primary allegation. Why do you refuse to address the remaining issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 16 - vanish evidence and witnesses)?


    17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can "argue" with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

    Example: "There were no CIA drugs and no drug money was laundered through Mena, Arkansas, and certainly, there was no Bill Clinton knowledge of it because it simply didn't happen. This is merely an attempt by his opponents to put Clinton off balance and at a disadvantage in the election because Dole is such a weak candidate with nothing to offer that they are desperate to come up with something to swing the polls. Dole simply has no real platform." Response. "You idiot! Dole has the clearest vision of what's wrong with Government since McGovern. Clinton is only interested in raping the economy, the environment, and every woman he can get his hands on..." One naturally feels compelled, regardless of party of choice, to jump in defensively on that one...

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your evade discussion of the issues by attempting to sidetrack us with an emotional response -- a trap which we will not fall into willingly. If you truly believe such political rhetoric, please drop out of this discussion, as it is not germane unless you can provide concrete facts to support your contentions of relevance. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 17- change the subject)?
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    I think these 25 rules make a lot of sense, regardless of how one feels about any of the examples used.



    The 25 Rules for Disinformation(contd.)


    18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how "sensitive they are to criticism".

    Example: "You are such an idiot to think that possible -- or are you such a paranoid conspiracy buff that you think the 'gubment' is cooking your pea-brained skull with microwaves, which is the only justification you might have for dreaming up this drivel." After a drawing an emotional response: "Ohhh... I do seemed to have touched a sensitive nerve. Tsk, tsk. What's the matter? The truth too hot for you to handle? Perhaps you should stop relying on the Psychic Friends Network and see a psychiatrist for some real professional help..."

    Proper response: "You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You attempt to draw me into emotional response without discussion of the issues. If you have something useful to contribute which defeats my argument, let's here it -- preferably without snide and unwarranted personal attacks, if you can manage to avoid sinking so low. Your useless rhetoric serves no purpose here if that is all you can manage. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 18 - emotionalize, antagonize, and goad opponents)?


    19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the "play dumb" rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

    Example: "All he's done is to quote the liberal media and a bunch of witnesses who aren't qualified. Where's his proof? Show me wreckage from Flight 800 that shows a missile hit it!"

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You presume for us not to accept Don Phillips, reporter for the Washington Post, Al Baker, Craig Gordon or Liam Pleven, reporters for Newsday, Matthew Purdy or Matthew L. Wald, Don Van Natta Jr., reporters for the New York Times, or Pat Milton, wire reporter for the Associated Press -- as being able to tell us anything useful about the facts in this matter. Neither would you allow us to accept Robert E. Francis, Vice Chairman of the NTSB, Joseph Cantamessa Jr., Special Agent In Charge of the New York Office of the F.B.I., Dr. Charles Wetli, Suffolk County Medical Examiner, the Pathologist examining the bodies, nor unnamed Navy divers, crash investigators, or other cited officials, including Boeing Aircraft representatives a part of the crash investigative team -- as a qualified party in this matter, and thus, dismisses this material out of hand. Good logic, -- about as good as saying 150 eye witnesses aren't qualified. Only YOUR are qualified to tell us what to believe? Witnesses be damned? Radar tracks be damned? Satellite tracks be damned? Reporters be damned? Photographs be damned? Government statements be damned? Is there a pattern here?. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 19 - ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs)?


    20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

    Example: Jack Ruby warned the Warren Commission that the white Russian separatists, the Solidarists, were involved in the assassination. This was a handy "confession", since Jack and Earl were both on the same team in terms of the cover up, and since it is now known that Jack worked directly with CIA in the assassination.

    Proper response: This one can be difficult to respond to unless you see it clearly, such as in the following example, where more is known today than earlier in time... You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics.

    Your information is known to have designed to side track this issue. As revealed by CIA operative Marita Lorenz under oath offered in court in E. Howard Hunt vs. Liberty Lobby, CIA operatives met with Jack Ruby in Dallas the night before the assassination of JFK to distribute guns and money. Clearly, Ruby was a coconspirator whose "Solidarist confession" was meant to sidetrack any serious investigation of the murder. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 20 - false evidence)?


    21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.

    Example: According to one OK bombing Grand Juror who violated the law to speak the truth, jurors were, contrary to law, denied the power of subpoena of witness of their choosing, denied the power of asking witnesses questions of their choosing, and relegated to hearing only evidence prosecution wished them to hear, evidence which clearly seemed fraudulent and intended to paint conclusions other than facts actually suggested.

    Proper response: There is usually no adequate response to this tactic except to complain loudly at any sign of its application, particularly with respect to any possible cover up.


    22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

    Example: The False Memory Syndrome Foundation and American Family Foundation and American and Canadian Psychiatric Associations fall into this category, as their founding members and/or leadership include key persons associated with CIA Mind Control research. Not so curious, then, that (in a perhaps oversimplified explanation here) these organizations focus on, by means of their own "research findings", that there is no such thing as Mind Control.

    Proper response: Unless you are in a position to be well versed in the topic and know of the background and relationships involved in the opponent organization, you are not well equipped to fight this tactic.


    23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

    Example: To distract the public over the progress of a WTC bombing trial that seems to be uncovering nasty ties to the intelligence community, have an endless discussion of skaters whacking other skaters on the knee. To distract the public over the progress of the Waco trials that have the potential to reveal government sponsored murder, have an O.J. summer. To distract the public over an ever disintegrating McVeigh trial situation and the danger of exposing government involvements, come up with something else (any day now) to talk about -- keeping in the sports theme, how about sports fans shooting referees and players during a game and the whole gun control thing?

    Proper response: The best you can do is attempt to keep public debate and interest in the true issues alive and point out that the "news flap" or other evasive tactic serves the interests of your opponents.
    Last edited by Jeff Reynolds; 05-05-2007 at 10:18 PM.
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